Down to the wire – Was the Lima decision better than nothing?

YES Indeed, thank you. We would otherwise never hear about the real issues if it was left up to our current government.

Thank you Elizabeth for keeping us informed. It seems all these climate related sites attract the trolls with their silly posts!

Perhaps, but one has to wonder whether this broad multi-lateral approach has been the right approach for an issue so urgent, where such a large percentage of emissions are concentrated in a few countries. I helped draft the original Toronto target in 1988, pushed for targets at the 1990 Climate Conference in Geneva, attended the early COP meetings (by then working mainly with cities around the world), and worked hard for the Kyoto Protocol ratification in Canada, so I am complicit. But looking back now at this heart-breaking failure of the international community to act for the common good, I cannot help but wonder if we would have been further ahead with a process, right from the beginning, that included only the U.S, the EU, Japan, Russia, China and India. Perhaps it would have been impossible (as the process we have is turning out to be); it certainly would not have been easy to convene. But it would have allowed a conversation that encompassed over two thirds of world emissions, with nations that are social and economic pattern setters, and without the bickering and sabotage from the oil producers and small emitters. And with just six chairs at the table.

I sent a link to this article to the US political blog Daily Kos to be published tomorrow night. Very little attention was given to the COP20 even on the political blogs, the so-called alternative media. Lots of articles were posted on Daily Kos from people who attended the conference but they did not get much reaction.

Thanks Elizabeth, You can use my words here when I say that Mr Harper does not care about his kids by saying that we must wait for The U.S. to have considelated effort to fight pollution of all sort. Everybody knows that When you walk down the street and you are force to breath burn diesel fumes, walk through empty cans along our rivers where salmond spawn, cities have to fight to keep their park and fresh water protected from Fracking, there is something fishy about how government is acting toward the Oil industry. Why isn’t he talking about making battery made of Hemp fiber? What about not having my tax paying for reseach on Graphene capacitors? Don’t you think that your kids Mr. Harper, deserve clean air to? how about water that does not need chlorine because its been filtered naturally from a clean mash or from a clean underground water? That water does not cost anything to use. But no, you rather let the big oil companies destroyed our fresh water. So, where your kids will live? Will you let them drink chlorinated water? Will you tell them that you were too much of a wimp to stand up to big oil companies? To tax these companies so we can invest in research for other source of energy. Did you tell them that the electric car was first invented by Armand Porsche? I didn’t serve this country for my government to destroy it. And yes I wish you could be fired. For not taking care of this country Iike I did. You could have created job by investing more in the research for better ships, better aircraft, made here in Canada. All you had to do is launch a competition across all Universities in Canada to design and test newer technologies. But who control you? that is the question? You would never let Raw log export happen and destroying 1000′s of BC jobs. Why is Canada been sold out. We are the ground keeper of this land, To protect it, to use its resources wisely, not only for the benefit of Canadian, but for all man kind, and I might add all life. This is not an Utopia, it’s a neccessity. So no thank, Mr. Harper, and good luck your kids. Antoine Yvan Harvey 52.

Thank you, Elizabeth May , for fighting for our environment and for all you do. Have a peaceful and happy Christmas.